Llotnarf [bun-length]Apr 10, 2006 1:17:54 pm
they hit all the right notes
oh the concept of the scene is fine... just didn't like how it happens
Eck (Linkin Park isa Rollah Coasta)Apr 10, 2006 1:26:45 pm
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<p><font face="Tahoma" color="#FFFFFF" size="2">when he picks a fight with the muscle dood... they could have found a better way for it to start other than "what the fuck is your problem?" out of the blue</div></font></td></tr></table></div></center>
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<p><font face="Tahoma" color="#FFFFFF" size="2">when he picks a fight with the muscle dood... they could have found a better way for it to start other than "what the fuck is your problem?" out of the blue</div></font></td></tr></table></div></center>
PnbApr 10, 2006 1:45:26 pm
Just wanted a show of strength.
Eck (Linkin Park isa Rollah Coasta)Apr 10, 2006 1:57:00 pm
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Llotnarf [bun-length]Apr 10, 2006 2:06:31 pm
Tony has thrown a hissy fit/temper tantrum in the past, and the reason for it never really matters that much to the others. they never really talked about taking him out based on the fact that he threw a brutal temper tantrum. i think a lot of the hierarchy really is based on strength and show of force.
however, weakness is never tolerated (look at how they turned against sack just because he cried at the wedding). it's more important to show physical, macho strength than it is to have a reason to show it. tony had to do something because they were calling him an invalid and the whole bodyguard thing just symbolized everything he lacked. showing that he had the force of will to take down a guy that strong just showed that he never even needed the bodyguard to begin with. in less than a minute he completely put all of that shit to rest for good, and it was really the only way he could do it, and he knew it.
i think the others knew that he was "wrong" to knock that guy down but they also understood why he needed to do it. and i think he knew that they knew this. actions speak louder than words.
however, weakness is never tolerated (look at how they turned against sack just because he cried at the wedding). it's more important to show physical, macho strength than it is to have a reason to show it. tony had to do something because they were calling him an invalid and the whole bodyguard thing just symbolized everything he lacked. showing that he had the force of will to take down a guy that strong just showed that he never even needed the bodyguard to begin with. in less than a minute he completely put all of that shit to rest for good, and it was really the only way he could do it, and he knew it.
i think the others knew that he was "wrong" to knock that guy down but they also understood why he needed to do it. and i think he knew that they knew this. actions speak louder than words.
PnbApr 10, 2006 2:35:43 pm [NT]
Llotnarf [bun-length]Apr 10, 2006 1:46:42 pm
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<p><font face="Tahoma" color="#FFFFFF" size="2">tony's not perfect and isnt supposed to be perfect. the fact that he could only come up with the soda thing as an excuse to assert his dominance just shows that that was all he could come up with.
if he was suddenly really clever then that would be out of character. and if the writers had gone back and inserted some little plot point to give tony a more clear motivation/excuse to pummel the muscle dude, not only might that feel contrived, but it would probably make that moment less of a surprise. this way, it came completely out of the blue but yet it made perfect sense given tony's conversation with his shrink earlier.</div></font></td></tr></table></div></center>
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<p><font face="Tahoma" color="#FFFFFF" size="2">tony's not perfect and isnt supposed to be perfect. the fact that he could only come up with the soda thing as an excuse to assert his dominance just shows that that was all he could come up with.
if he was suddenly really clever then that would be out of character. and if the writers had gone back and inserted some little plot point to give tony a more clear motivation/excuse to pummel the muscle dude, not only might that feel contrived, but it would probably make that moment less of a surprise. this way, it came completely out of the blue but yet it made perfect sense given tony's conversation with his shrink earlier.</div></font></td></tr></table></div></center>
Midas [No, the other one]Apr 10, 2006 2:02:05 pm [NT]
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